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#1 2008-01-29 12:24:03

luke
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Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

... in friends' news feeds.


I'm rather shocked to find this is the case.

I was playing around at recording a screencast of my app earlier, and it caused it to post to my mini-feed.  I immediately deleted it from the mini-feed, but just got a message from someone saying it showed up in their news feed.

I'd always assumed deleting a story from our mini-feed stopped it showing in other people's news feeds - and I'm quite shocked and disturbed to find that it doesn't.

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#2 2008-01-29 12:29:46

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

You are right. it just prevents your friends from viewing it on your profile. I discovered that lately also. smile


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[My Profile]---->Displays My Profile .

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#3 2008-01-29 12:33:31

Chris Diraddo
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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

Yeah, it sucks. I learnt the hard way too. Now I always uncheck the option of posting to mini-feed during any app install.

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#4 2008-01-29 12:41:44

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

andro wrote:

You are right. it just prevents your friends from viewing it on your profile. I discovered that lately also. smile

it is not quiet right.
your minifeed is not visible only for your friends.
so when you "hide" smth - it becomes invisible for other ppl


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#5 2008-01-29 12:45:29

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

Yeah, I experienced the same thing maybe a month ago.  I used to think deleting from the mini-feed prevented it from appearing in friends' news feeds, but then had someone message me about something I deleted.  I think it would be better if removing an item from the mini-feed also prevented it from appearing in news feeds.

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#6 2008-01-29 12:49:05

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

mhuggins wrote:

Yeah, I experienced the same thing maybe a month ago.  I used to think deleting from the mini-feed prevented it from appearing in friends' news feeds, but then had someone message me about something I deleted.  I think it would be better if removing an item from the mini-feed also prevented it from appearing in news feeds.

yeah, maybe they need one more button there like:
hide from friends
hide from all

or smth.
your minifeed is also visible for other ppl not just your friends


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#7 2008-01-29 12:51:27

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

anatolyl wrote:

your minifeed is also visible for other ppl not just your friends

What the hell??!!! - this is getting worse!!

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#8 2008-01-29 12:53:57

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

Also, could someone run a poll:

Did you know that when you delete something from your mini-feed, your friends can still see it in their news feed?

- yes
- no


I bet most people would be surprised that this is the way things work.

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#9 2008-01-29 12:54:56

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

that really sucks. I don't think the normal facebook user knows this.


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#10 2008-01-29 12:57:01

Chris Diraddo
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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

Maybe phrase it a little differently to avoid the "of course I knew that!" answers...

When I delete items from my mini-feed, my friends cannot see it in their news feed.
-True
-False


Edit: Thinking back, they would be dying to know the answer!

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#11 2008-01-29 12:57:48

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

luke wrote:

anatolyl wrote:

your minifeed is also visible for other ppl not just your friends

What the hell??!!! - this is getting worse!!

at least it is visible for your network lol, didn'y you know ?


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#12 2008-01-29 12:58:54

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

I knew. It seems like that's what "Publish" means.

I've been complaining for awhile that we don't have a way to really test our feeds, just for that reason. I knew all of my trials in getting feeds working was showing up on all my friend's feeds. I just figured that all my friend's knew I was the developer, so would kindly ignore my screwups.

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#13 2008-01-29 13:02:14

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

anatolyl wrote:

at least it is visible for your network lol, didn'y you know ?

No, I assumed that when I set my profile visibility to "only my friends" that that would include my mini-feed.

I find the whole concept of giving visibility to people in your network somewhat flawed for regional networks.  Why should I be more comfortable with people knowing my address, simply because they live near enough to come round and burgle my house.

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#14 2008-01-29 13:04:05

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

sweetsteve wrote:

I knew. It seems like that's what "Publish" means.

"Publish" wouldn't mean anything to a standard user though.

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#15 2008-01-29 13:07:30

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

luke wrote:

anatolyl wrote:

at least it is visible for your network lol, didn'y you know ?

No, I assumed that when I set my profile visibility to "only my friends" that that would include my mini-feed.

I find the whole concept of giving visibility to people in your network somewhat flawed for regional networks.  Why should I be more comfortable with people knowing my address, simply because they live near enough to come round and burgle my house.

well you can configure accordingly each part of your profile, info, contact info, your apps, etc


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#16 2008-01-29 13:09:38

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

anatolyl wrote:

well you can configure accordingly each part of your profile, info, contact info, your apps, etc

mini-feed isn't included in any of the individual settings though, so I assume it just falls under the general 'profile' banner.  I'm thinking I'm probably OK, and you were just panicking me into thinking Facebook was showing my feed to complete strangers.

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#17 2008-01-29 13:11:21

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

when you delete an item from mini feed you ca chhose to say "I didn't do this" my understanding was if you do it this way it won't show in your friends' news feed


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#18 2008-01-29 13:13:09

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

luke wrote:

mini-feed isn't included in any of the individual settings though, so I assume it just falls under the general 'profile' banner.  I'm thinking I'm probably OK, and you were just panicking me into thinking Facebook was showing my feed to complete strangers.

there is a separate section for mini-feed/news feed with explanations


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#19 2008-01-29 13:16:26

luke
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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

2600 wrote:

when you delete an item from mini feed you ca chhose to say "I didn't do this" my understanding was if you do it this way it won't show in your friends' news feed

I think that leads to the app being reported though for news feed spamming - and obviously I don't want that to happen with my own app.

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#20 2008-01-29 13:17:32

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

anatolyl wrote:

there is a separate section for mini-feed/news feed with explanations

It seems, though, that that is for selecting what is shown in your feeds, not who can see them.

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#21 2008-01-29 13:20:02

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

luke wrote:

2600 wrote:

when you delete an item from mini feed you ca chhose to say "I didn't do this" my understanding was if you do it this way it won't show in your friends' news feed

I think that leads to the app being reported though for news feed spamming - and obviously I don't want that to happen with my own app.

I used this many times on my apps and it never changed my spamminess score


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#22 2008-01-29 13:22:42

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

2600 wrote:

I used this many times on my apps and it never changed my spamminess score

I don't think it affects your spamminess score, as that's just linked to notifications, but  assume (and, quite frankly, hope) Facebook are storing it somewhere and that they will use it to identify apps that spam the news feeds.

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#23 2008-01-29 13:25:57

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#24 2008-01-29 13:42:55

luke
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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

As Chris Diraddo noted in the bug report, when you click on the little 'x' you're shown the message (italics are my own):

"Are you sure you want to hide this Mini-Feed story?
Hiding will remove the story from your Mini-Feed and prevent anyone from seeing it."

The part I've put in italics is nothing but a big fat lie (well, it's at least very misleading).

I'm really pretty wound up about this - and I've not even had anything particularly bad that I've wanted to delete from my feed, it's just the whole principle of the thing.

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#25 2008-01-29 13:46:53

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Re: Deleting something from your mini-feed doesn't stop it showing ...

it is misleading but who is reading confirmation messages anyway ?
I'm surprised that only now you have found that it is not deleted from news-feed.
I think this "feature" is older than development platform.


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