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#1 2008-05-23 10:02:23

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The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open
2:30am Friday, May 23
Published by Pete Bratach

As we promised recently, we've opened up our beta sandbox for the new profile design. You should have enough time to test the new design with your applications before we launch it to our users next month.

We believe that the new design makes profiles cleaner and simpler, gives users more control over their profiles, and emphasizes recent and relevant information. We hope that as you try out the new application integration points, you'll start thinking of ways you can engage your users more meaningfully. We expect applications that engage users with rich content and great experiences will thrive with the new design.

We'll be announcing several related changes over the next few days. Plus we'll be giving you greater insight into the various integration points and user migration details, so stay tuned to this blog for more details.


Accessing the Sandbox

The sandbox is located at www.new.facebook.com/profile.php.

To start testing, you need to download the new version of the Facebook PHP client library. It's available from svn.facebook.com/svnroot/platform/clients/php/branches/redesign-changes/.

If you want to take the new design out for a test drive before changing your own applications, you can tinker with the MySmiley application that we developed. With it you can test all the new integration points (like create different-sized Feed stories, use the Publisher to create Feed content, add an application info section, place a box on the Boxes tab or left column, and create a custom application tab). You can use the test application at apps.new.facebook.com/mysmiley and view the application source code at svn.facebook.com/svnroot/platform/samples/smiley/.

Remember this is a beta sandbox for the new profile only, so some features are not necessarily enabled and others are still in flux. So you should expect some changes from what you see right now before this goes live. However, the features that are relatively stable and ready to test, explore, and comment on are the specific APIs and integration points, including:

    * New Feed story sizes and types – including the template bundles
    * Adding application tabs, and how application tabs function
    * Publisher integration
    * Setting up the new "main profile section"  and adding those to profiles
    * Application info sections

You can check the status of known issues and changes in the sandbox on the Facebook Developers Wiki.


Contacting Us

As we near the date when we launch the profile to our users, we want to hear from you about the new design and your experiences trying it out. Please report any bugs you see in the new design. Make sure you use the New Profile category. You can help us solve your issue faster by adding one of the following components to your report: Feed, Info Sections, Profile Boxes, Publisher, and Tabs.

You can send us your feedback and ask questions in the New Profile section of the Developer Forum.


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#2 2008-05-23 10:04:51

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

Congratulations on making the worst thing on facebook EVER!

Seriously guys, that new look completely S*CKS! (I have no better way to describe it)


I'm back to Web 2.0!

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#3 2008-05-23 11:17:59

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

Take it back! Pretend you never started it. Even destroy all evidence that indicates you ever thought of it.


-George

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#4 2008-05-23 11:27:46

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

aritude wrote:

Congratulations on making the worst thing on facebook EVER!

Seriously guys, that new look completely S*CKS! (I have no better way to describe it)

to be fair, via their Facebook Profiles Preview page, Facebook appear to have iterated on the design with regular feedback to/from ordinary users throughout the whole process. this is something i've never seen a major website do before, at least not so openly.

this is admirable, even if the final result is not to everyone's taste (including mine, by the way!)

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#5 2008-05-23 11:44:31

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Explain why you can only post on someone's wall when viewing their feed. When viewing their wall there is no post box. That is incredibly confusing and I can't begin to understand the logic behind that.

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#6 2008-05-23 12:04:23

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

aritude wrote:

Congratulations on making the worst thing on facebook EVER!

Seriously guys, that new look completely S*CKS! (I have no better way to describe it)

If you are going to criticize it, at least give some arguments! you can't just say it sucks.
That's the whole point of the sandbox and this post too: constructive feedback, not just kiddish comments.

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#7 2008-05-23 12:16:44

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I assume this will look way better when released. The backend is a priority over decorations.

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#8 2008-05-23 12:31:06

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Its just not facebook. Remember how people reteacted even when the "Facebook Guy" was removed from the top right logo? The thing is, I don't think anybody would feel comfortable with this, here are a few reasons:

1.) Currently facebook layout is shrunk into a part of screen that is centred. Suddenly, you widened everything. Thats an ergonomical disaster.

2.) The mini-feed looks too huge.

3.) Make boundaries.

4.) The side-nav way to applications was the most comfortable thing on this website. Which is ruined.

5.) The info page should be default on profile with a wall post text box at the top. Wall, should be on the second tab with the mini-feed. This will create a super fast way to post on someone's wall.

6.) Why is the top bar light blue? Fbook blue would have made me feel at home.

7.) Basic Info should show up where the networks are shown. Also, the pages we are fan of should be there below friend list.

8.) With the current layout without borders. The advertisements will look like those on myspace, ie, spammy kinda stuff. This will further lower CPMs and be painful to the value of this platform.

9.) Again, borders are important. You received a positive feedback on the screenshots you posted a few days back but now everyone says its not good in flesh. One reason for that is, YOU HAD BORDERS and it still made facebook shrunk to the centre. Its painful to eyes because it lacks borders. For widescreen users, its mess!

Change things for better, don't create a new social network!

In a nutshell - Bring Side-nav back, make borders and tab the profile. Everyone should then feel comfy with the whole idea.


I'm back to Web 2.0!

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#9 2008-05-23 12:50:14

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

another thing I don't like is that photos in the mini feed are now bigger, which looks a lot less tidy, and adds unnecessary whitespace (and I'm a massive fan of whitespace, but used correctly, to space things out, not to have gaps in the middle of things).  If you reduce the size of a story, it then goes to just the story heading - that's not I wanted, I just wanted to make the photo less huge.

I'd say a lot of work is needed on the mini feed to make it look neater, and tidy, and to make it more obvious where one story starts and the next ends.  It just looks a real mess at the moment. 


And borders borders borders.  Nothing seems framed anymore, and it just looks a mess.  It looks like someone has taken a load of newspaper clippings and just thrown them over their desk.  There's now less on the screen, but it's ended up looking more cluttered.

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#10 2008-05-23 12:52:51

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You can click on it to reduce it, but it seems you have to reduce each story one at a time.  That and you have to refresh after reducing it because it crashes the rest of the dialogs.


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#11 2008-05-23 12:58:13

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

You can't reduce the size of the photo, can you?  You can only reduce the story down to the subject (this is for ones where I have commented on a photo, not where I have added a photo).

Also, when you decrease the size of a story on your mini-feed, it seems to move the story to the top of your mini-feed on the old/current/live profile view (obviously not an issue in the long term, but something to keep an eye out for whilst testing).

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#12 2008-05-23 13:01:39

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ok, firstly, I have found two bugs with that profile thing: In the feed story of a note, the contents of the note is shown as html instead of text. And the boxes that I have hidden are back on the "boxes" page.

Secondly, I find the new layout repulsive. Someone should really take a design class before making that layout. It's too white for it's own good. I'd like to keep it the same colors as before. And also, I liked the left navigation thing and now it's in a tab... And the tabs, by the way, are really really slow. Thirdly, I really don't like how the feed and the wall is mixed together and there's no mini-feed to just get a glimpse of the whole thing. Fourthly, popular applications like Extended Info will not work anymore.

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#13 2008-05-23 13:07:02

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Yep, the new functionality does kind of stick a finger up to Extended Info, as now any app can extend the 'Info' tab with the new info sections.

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#14 2008-05-23 13:32:26

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

hayson1991 wrote:

And the tabs, by the way, are really really slow.

I've got to disagree. Loading the tabs the first time around is quick, very quick, much quicker than a full page load ever was. And switching to previously loaded tabs is even quicker (although there is a noticeable delay, but it's still quick). (I'll stop saying 'quick' now.)

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#15 2008-05-23 13:50:49

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Yeah, tab loading is pretty quick.  I hate the way the screen jumps around so much when switching to the later tabs though.

This is due to the profile pic becoming smaller, and the left hand column going - and it looks really naff as the screen jumps around.  This is especially so when switching for the first time, and the spinner shows something loading in one space, but more of the page than just that changes.  There needs to be more consistency between the tabs, or a smoother way of doing the transition.

Maybe the tabs should be moved up above the profile pic, so that everything that changes when switching tabs is below the tabs, and the spinner can be shown over the whole space (not the size of the whole space, but everything else blanked out).

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#16 2008-05-23 13:57:17

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luke wrote:

Yeah, tab loading is pretty quick.  I hate the way the screen jumps around so much when switching to the later tabs though.

This is due to the profile pic becoming smaller, and the left hand column going - and it looks really naff as the screen jumps around.  This is especially so when switching for the first time, and the spinner shows something loading in one space, but more of the page than just that changes.  There needs to be more consistency between the tabs, or a smoother way of doing the transition.

Maybe the tabs should be moved up above the profile pic, so that everything that changes when switching tabs is below the tabs, and the spinner can be shown over the whole space (not the size of the whole space, but everything else blanked out).

Agreed. At least the way Firefox is rendering it, when you switch from Photos or Boxes to the first 3 tabs, the left column kind of "pops up" from the bottom, which actually looks kind of cool. But it's still a bit pants.

I'm working on a Greasemonkey JS to try out putting borders and dividers between things. It looks quite nice.

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#17 2008-05-23 15:02:11

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

Here are a couple of JavaScript files for GreaseMonkey (or similar).

This one tinkers with borders, mostly, and frames the profile a bit better than currently, I think. Download

This one does the same, and also shrinks the top menu bar to match the width of the profile. People have been talking about how it looks silly stretched in wider browsers, so now you can see the alternative. Download. I've kept the chat bar the same as normal.

I've been testing it in Firefox 2, so it may act differently in other browsers. Also, long names may break the top bar.

Certain tabs break some borders, because of the AJAX

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#18 2008-05-23 23:40:29

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

Just tried the scripts with GreaseKit in Safari.  Sadly the styling doesn't work in Safari, and things get chopped off along the left hand side.  It does though give the impression that borders and a fixed width menu would help.

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#19 2008-05-24 03:50:22

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any body knows the aprox launch date?

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#20 2008-05-24 05:13:33

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The main thing I dislike about the new look profile is the fact that to write on someones wall you have to go to the FEED section, it would make more sense to put it under the wall section, after all if you want to write on someones wall then it makes sense to go to their wall to do it.
The tabs are not a bad idea, they separate everything up for easy navigation, but I do prefer having the applications listed down the left hand side as when i log in I can go straight to the application I want to use that way and it is a little quicker than having to go click on a tab, wait for the applications to load up, and then clicking through on them.
Also the whole thing just looks very plain and boring, and very white, it needs something else, more colour or something, to make it less drab to look at.

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#21 2008-05-24 09:18:01

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

sear69 wrote:

The main thing I dislike about the new look profile is the fact that to write on someones wall you have to go to the FEED section, it would make more sense to put it under the wall section, after all if you want to write on someones wall then it makes sense to go to their wall to do it.

They are apparently still undecided on whether to have the separate Wall tab, or just have filters on the Feed tab.

I say the later is a much better idea.  They should dump the 'Wall' tab, rename the 'Feed' tab back to 'Wall' (as it was in earlier sneak peeks), and add filters to it so that you can sort between incoming (wall posts) and outgoing (mini-feed) stories.

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#22 2008-05-26 02:11:02

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

Hi All,

The tab wow innovative??!!! where are you living people is this a user page or website for every user?

you are shooting your leg, get rid of that tabs, hidden information is a disaster for your trafic

how many people you think they will click on every tab to see all "user website" where is social here?
one page only!! the apps will loose users and develope less for you

hire imaginative dev people use load on demand ajax, and break your head to keep everything in one page

that's the chalenge for your next UI

one thing I can say it's true good for Adds, bad for all the concept of facebook

tabs are old fashion, be creative!!!!

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#23 2008-05-26 06:50:17

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Tabs old fashioned?  Are you from the future?  Last I checked tabs were still a fairly new concept which many fail to execute properly.


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#24 2008-05-26 07:28:33

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Re: The Sandbox for the New Profile Design Is Now Open

cyMall wrote:

Tabs old fashioned?  Are you from the future?  Last I checked tabs were still a fairly new concept which many fail to execute properly.

My Friend I meant for a user page, not for companies yes very functionnal, but less imaginative and appealing to a social user

think about it when you see a person live for the first time does he have tabs on him
(a person is mix of so many so things, yours eyes catch what attract you in him, you don't have to search for hidden info)
, a company yes...

and yes Im from the future:)

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#25 2008-05-26 07:38:53

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If thats what you mean by it, then again your logic doesn't work too well.  You need to ask the person "When is your birthday?", "Are you single?",... this is the same with tabs.  Tabs are very functional and great for any type of site, especially Facebook.  But it has to be well executed.  Currently it kills the clutter and all the information as in your display and don't have to filter out the load of apps to find what you need. 

My only compliant is the layout, its too boring and bland.  All white, no borders and a very confusing "feeds" tab is not the way to go.


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